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	<title>Comments on: Review:  Fedora 10</title>
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		<title>By: dan_r</title>
		<link>http://server.ericsbinaryworld.com/blog/2009/02/12/review-fedora-10/comment-page-1/#comment-74847</link>
		<dc:creator>dan_r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have F10 XFCE on my Acer Aspire One with 8G SSD and 512MB ram. With a bit of tweaking, like disabling some services and SELinux, it is fast enough and boots under 25s. Everything works - sound, standby, wifi, even Compiz. I also installed ProgeCAD under wine and it works. And it is by far more usable and configurable than Linpus Linux Lite that comes with AAO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have F10 XFCE on my Acer Aspire One with 8G SSD and 512MB ram. With a bit of tweaking, like disabling some services and SELinux, it is fast enough and boots under 25s. Everything works &#8211; sound, standby, wifi, even Compiz. I also installed ProgeCAD under wine and it works. And it is by far more usable and configurable than Linpus Linux Lite that comes with AAO.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Mesa</title>
		<link>http://server.ericsbinaryworld.com/blog/2009/02/12/review-fedora-10/comment-page-1/#comment-74059</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, a yum upgrade is no worse than a DVD upgrade.  But not as good as a fresh wipe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, a yum upgrade is no worse than a DVD upgrade.  But not as good as a fresh wipe.</p>
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		<title>By: Yuri</title>
		<link>http://server.ericsbinaryworld.com/blog/2009/02/12/review-fedora-10/comment-page-1/#comment-74050</link>
		<dc:creator>Yuri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean you can upgrade to a new major release from an older one via yum? Is the result as &quot;clean&quot; as upgrading via CD/DVD? I&#039;m using a Red Hat EL clone, where you can&#039;t &quot;jump&quot; to a new major release only via yum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean you can upgrade to a new major release from an older one via yum? Is the result as &#8220;clean&#8221; as upgrading via CD/DVD? I&#8217;m using a Red Hat EL clone, where you can&#8217;t &#8220;jump&#8221; to a new major release only via yum.</p>
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		<title>By: damentz</title>
		<link>http://server.ericsbinaryworld.com/blog/2009/02/12/review-fedora-10/comment-page-1/#comment-70490</link>
		<dc:creator>damentz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, through VirtualBox you still cannot test the nvidia or fglrx installations.  Codecs should be simple though and shouldn&#039;t be that important for a review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, through VirtualBox you still cannot test the nvidia or fglrx installations.  Codecs should be simple though and shouldn&#8217;t be that important for a review.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Mesa</title>
		<link>http://server.ericsbinaryworld.com/blog/2009/02/12/review-fedora-10/comment-page-1/#comment-69454</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I was reviewing my upgraded Fedora so I ironed those problems out years ago.  Still, it&#039;s a good point.  Perhaps next time I&#039;ll also review a fresh install in VirtualBox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I was reviewing my upgraded Fedora so I ironed those problems out years ago.  Still, it&#8217;s a good point.  Perhaps next time I&#8217;ll also review a fresh install in VirtualBox.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisw</title>
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		<dc:creator>chrisw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why anyone would use Fedora over Ubuntu I will never know (to each his own i guess). I tried Fedora 10 and as I was setting up after the install (Nvidia, codecs etc) it occurred to me that this setup IS the difference between Ubuntu and Fedora it takes me A LOT longer to setup Fedora after the install than it does for Ubuntu. Lets face it, after all my setup is done I am left with the normal Gnome after setting up in either distro and both distros do the exact same things. So the question is, why would anyone use a distro that takes longer to setup if the end result is the same environment and functionality in either distro? it also occurs to me that this can be true if someone was more used to Fedora than Ubuntu. In your review I noticed you don&#039;t mention about codecs and Nvidia/ATI drivers and the difficulty or ease of this part of the setup. Most reviews I read don&#039;t mention this setup phase, as if it doesn&#039;t count, for me how long it takes me to get any distro to a functional level of useability is most time what will make me use it or dump it. By useability I mean the distro has to do more than email, web surf and update/install packages. Theres codecs, plugins video drivers and countless other pieces of &quot;nonfree&quot; software that needs installing. I just think this part of a distro install is often neglected in reviews, any thoughts on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why anyone would use Fedora over Ubuntu I will never know (to each his own i guess). I tried Fedora 10 and as I was setting up after the install (Nvidia, codecs etc) it occurred to me that this setup IS the difference between Ubuntu and Fedora it takes me A LOT longer to setup Fedora after the install than it does for Ubuntu. Lets face it, after all my setup is done I am left with the normal Gnome after setting up in either distro and both distros do the exact same things. So the question is, why would anyone use a distro that takes longer to setup if the end result is the same environment and functionality in either distro? it also occurs to me that this can be true if someone was more used to Fedora than Ubuntu. In your review I noticed you don&#8217;t mention about codecs and Nvidia/ATI drivers and the difficulty or ease of this part of the setup. Most reviews I read don&#8217;t mention this setup phase, as if it doesn&#8217;t count, for me how long it takes me to get any distro to a functional level of useability is most time what will make me use it or dump it. By useability I mean the distro has to do more than email, web surf and update/install packages. Theres codecs, plugins video drivers and countless other pieces of &#8220;nonfree&#8221; software that needs installing. I just think this part of a distro install is often neglected in reviews, any thoughts on this?</p>
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		<title>By: tmb_ayebe</title>
		<link>http://server.ericsbinaryworld.com/blog/2009/02/12/review-fedora-10/comment-page-1/#comment-68390</link>
		<dc:creator>tmb_ayebe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 14:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I run Ubuntu 8.10 on my eee 701 (2gb Ram, 16gb SD card).  I find it very fast and stable.

When PCF said fedora 10 &quot;kicks Ubuntus ass&quot; (their words not mine) I thought I&#039;d better give it a go as I&#039;ve always had a soft spot for Fedora since FC 5 or 6.

Well, on the Eee it&#039;s too slow.  Takes ages to boot and the gnome desktop feels sluggish.  Gnome under Ubuntu is very snappy.  I was even running Fedora from a faster 8gb SD card than I use for Ubuntu.  Oh well, it looks nice and I&#039;ll give it another try when my Eee 1000 arrives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I run Ubuntu 8.10 on my eee 701 (2gb Ram, 16gb SD card).  I find it very fast and stable.</p>
<p>When PCF said fedora 10 &#8220;kicks Ubuntus ass&#8221; (their words not mine) I thought I&#8217;d better give it a go as I&#8217;ve always had a soft spot for Fedora since FC 5 or 6.</p>
<p>Well, on the Eee it&#8217;s too slow.  Takes ages to boot and the gnome desktop feels sluggish.  Gnome under Ubuntu is very snappy.  I was even running Fedora from a faster 8gb SD card than I use for Ubuntu.  Oh well, it looks nice and I&#8217;ll give it another try when my Eee 1000 arrives.</p>
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		<title>By: Boycott Novell &#187; IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: February 13th, 2009 - Part 1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boycott Novell &#187; IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: February 13th, 2009 - Part 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 10:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eric Mesa</title>
		<link>http://server.ericsbinaryworld.com/blog/2009/02/12/review-fedora-10/comment-page-1/#comment-68276</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that info.  Ever since graduating from uni I haven&#039;t watched DVDs on my computers (for the most part) so I no idea there were issues there.  As far as burning DVDs - I haven&#039;t had to burn either video DVDs or data DVDs since upgrading.  I&#039;ll keep that in mind if it seems to be taking a long time for me.  Would you mind posting on here which programs you were using for DVD playback as well as DVD burning?

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that info.  Ever since graduating from uni I haven&#8217;t watched DVDs on my computers (for the most part) so I no idea there were issues there.  As far as burning DVDs &#8211; I haven&#8217;t had to burn either video DVDs or data DVDs since upgrading.  I&#8217;ll keep that in mind if it seems to be taking a long time for me.  Would you mind posting on here which programs you were using for DVD playback as well as DVD burning?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Gigi</title>
		<link>http://server.ericsbinaryworld.com/blog/2009/02/12/review-fedora-10/comment-page-1/#comment-68275</link>
		<dc:creator>Gigi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice review. I installed F10 and liked it a lot. I was very polished and gave an impression of high stabilty. However, burning DVD&#039;s takes more than 1hr on F10 and system stutters when playing video dvds. (no it&#039;s not the media type). The same disks work fine on my Archlinux install which I am dual booting with.

F10 was always planned to be a &quot;polishing&quot; version due to the large number of invasive changes introduced in F9. Good that they pulled it off. Quite a rounded distro by all means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice review. I installed F10 and liked it a lot. I was very polished and gave an impression of high stabilty. However, burning DVD&#8217;s takes more than 1hr on F10 and system stutters when playing video dvds. (no it&#8217;s not the media type). The same disks work fine on my Archlinux install which I am dual booting with.</p>
<p>F10 was always planned to be a &#8220;polishing&#8221; version due to the large number of invasive changes introduced in F9. Good that they pulled it off. Quite a rounded distro by all means.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Mesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good point.  But as this was a Fedora review, I had to see how KDE was under Fedora.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good point.  But as this was a Fedora review, I had to see how KDE was under Fedora.</p>
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		<title>By: G2D2</title>
		<link>http://server.ericsbinaryworld.com/blog/2009/02/12/review-fedora-10/comment-page-1/#comment-68272</link>
		<dc:creator>G2D2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a good idea to try out KDE 4.2 on a Gnome-centric distribution like Fedora. Try openSUSE or Mandriva and you&#039;ll have a better experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a good idea to try out KDE 4.2 on a Gnome-centric distribution like Fedora. Try openSUSE or Mandriva and you&#8217;ll have a better experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Mesa</title>
		<link>http://server.ericsbinaryworld.com/blog/2009/02/12/review-fedora-10/comment-page-1/#comment-68245</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Big says Below, YMMV.   I&#039;ve almost never had all the problems I hear people complain about with Fedora.  But perhaps I&#039;m just lucky to have just the right hardware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Big says Below, YMMV.   I&#8217;ve almost never had all the problems I hear people complain about with Fedora.  But perhaps I&#8217;m just lucky to have just the right hardware.</p>
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		<title>By: Boycott Novell &#187; Links 12/02/2009: GNU/Linux in Cuba; Mozilla Justifies EU Action</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boycott Novell &#187; Links 12/02/2009: GNU/Linux in Cuba; Mozilla Justifies EU Action</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Review: Fedora 10 This month’s Linux Format Magazine includes Fedora 10. I upgraded to Fedora 10 a few months ago via a yum upgrade. I started by looking at Xfce as I’ve been using Xfce non-stop ever since starting “I’m Not Mad” in November. Xfce is much lighter than Gnome and I’m able to use Blender more effectively. Fedora 10 comes with Xfce 4.4.3. Overall, nothing major has changed on the surface although I know they’ve been doing a lot of work under the hood. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Review: Fedora 10 This month’s Linux Format Magazine includes Fedora 10. I upgraded to Fedora 10 a few months ago via a yum upgrade. I started by looking at Xfce as I’ve been using Xfce non-stop ever since starting “I’m Not Mad” in November. Xfce is much lighter than Gnome and I’m able to use Blender more effectively. Fedora 10 comes with Xfce 4.4.3. Overall, nothing major has changed on the surface although I know they’ve been doing a lot of work under the hood. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Big</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 02:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unlike Hank for me it has been the opposite experience. Every version of Ubuntu that came after the 7.04 has been extremely unstable on the various computers I have tried it on. But Fedora on the other hand has become more and more stable. 8 was very good, why 9 was a step back, but now 10 has been rock solid on no matter what hardware I have thrown at it.
Your mileage will always vary and the main thing to remember is to use whatever distro works best with your hardware and covers your specific needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike Hank for me it has been the opposite experience. Every version of Ubuntu that came after the 7.04 has been extremely unstable on the various computers I have tried it on. But Fedora on the other hand has become more and more stable. 8 was very good, why 9 was a step back, but now 10 has been rock solid on no matter what hardware I have thrown at it.<br />
Your mileage will always vary and the main thing to remember is to use whatever distro works best with your hardware and covers your specific needs.</p>
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