Comments on: Review: openSuse 11.0 (and KDE 4)

By: It’s A Binary World 2.0 » Review: openSuse 11.1

It’s A Binary World 2.0 » Review: openSuse 11.1 — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 04:02:54 +0000

[...] I last looked at openSuse 11.0 in Aug 2008. I’m not sure exactly how much has changed from 11.o to 11.1. I re-read my old review to [...]

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Recent Links Tagged With "opensuse" - JabberTags — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:23:15 +0000

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By: Nkoli

Nkoli — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:38:40 +0000

The complaints that so many people have had about the opensuse kickoff menu have been unfounded and based on their ignorance of the fact that the features they hate/request are already included.

I’ve found it amusing that people mention how they hate the way hovering on a tab switches to it, when in reality, that option can be changed by simply right clicking on the menu and selecting Application Launcher settings. Right click also lets you switch to the default kde menu.

SCO was wrong about linux infringing on their patents. It didn’t stop them from taking people to court and wasting a boatload of money and time on both sides before they were soundly beaten.

Microsoft is a much bigger company than SCO. Should they decide to do something similar, they can afford to waste more money and more time. Even worse, they can afford to go the way of the RIAA and MPAA and sue individuals, which I really wouldn’t put past them.

The deal with novell allows microsoft to bow out gracefully, without having to admit they were wrong. It’s called diplomacy. The world would be a much better place if more people used it. We all know microsoft doesn’t have any ground to stand on, but now, you won’t hear a peep from them about patent infringement and all opensource advocates can devote their time to making better software. All without a single dime spent. So what if microsoft wasn’t publicly humiliated?

In essence, novell achieved what IBM did with SCO. In fact, I’ll go as far as saying they did even better, because they managed to do it while maintaining positive feelings on both sides.

By: Fedora 9 Review (also Gnome in Fedora 9 Part 2) | It’s A Binary World 2.0

Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:47:53 +0000

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Recent Faves Tagged With "suse" : MyNetFaves — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:41:26 +0000

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By: Eric Mesa

Eric Mesa — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 10:54:26 +0000

@Jeffersonian: It would be easier to fix Nvidia problems if it were open source. Distros are at the mercy of Nvidia’s engineers. I, for one, am grateful they provide drivers for Linux at all. But, if things don’t work, they community can’t help them since they feel the need to keep it closed source.

By: Jeffersonian

Jeffersonian — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:28:12 +0000

I have used many versions of Suse Linux, and always liked it.

But this one is just not a great brew! (OpenSuse 10.3 was much better!).

The “artificial rigid time schedule” that Suse has always used, is again a problem: release even if it is not ready…

Well KDE 4.0 was obviously not ready, very buggy…
And the code written with KDE4 needs works…
This version should have at best a Beta version, not even a _RC (release candidate).

The Suse team has often done an outstanding job, and I hope that the next release reflect again this.

I hope that basic issues like NVIDIA/ATI drivers install, and wireless capabilities are also resolved.

Top be honest, I do not care much for the “eye candy”, it should come after basic usability, functionality.

If “eye candy” is the bait to try a distro, usability is what make us stick to it.

Will OpenSuse match Ubuntu stability (*) and usability?

I hope so, because SuSe KDE based tools are better
that Ubuntu’s, crude but effective.
Also OpenSuse allows encrypted partitions, etc…
Ubuntu does not.
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*: OpenSuse 11.0 online update, made the system totally unusable, I am a “Linux geek”, and could fix it, but this is quite a turn off!

By: Boycott Novell » Do-No-Evil Saturday - Part I: OpenSUSE and Summer’s Hack Week

Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:54:35 +0000

[...] is a more extensive examination of OpenSuse 11.0 with KDE 4. Except for the still touchy subject of the Microsoft deal, I’d recommend Novell to someone who [...]

By: Eric Mesa

Eric Mesa — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:25:02 +0000

@Anon: Yeah, it was a bit of a tongue-in-cheek comment. I know that KOffice 1.x is not as fully featured as OpenOffice.org. It’s more of a comment on KDE’s deficiencies.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:19:27 +0000

“…they could use KOffice.” KOffice may be fine for those without real office needs. It may be fine for those distros that release CDs targeted at other Linux users.

However, many potential new-to-Linux converts need and look for real “office” capabilities. If OpenSUSE releases a live CD for the purpose of introducing new users to Linux, then it really should show these new users that Linux offers capable office tools.

By: Eric Mesa

Eric Mesa — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:08:08 +0000

@Fred: Oh, so there you go – it’s exactly what I said. If the Suse Version of OO.o is that much better than vanilla OO.o, then everyone’s going to move to that one.

By: Fred

Fred — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:37:33 +0000

opensuse uses the go-oo.org version of openoffice which includes several optimaisations and features that the stock openoffice.org doesn’t whereas mandriva uses stock openoffice

Check the facts: Mandriva’s OpenOffice.org is also the one from go-ooo.org

By: Eric Mesa

Eric Mesa — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:45:41 +0000

@whitespiral I generally agree with you. KDE has always had more features and stuff. What I meant was surpassing Gnome’s popularity. While KDE has always had more features, it hasn’t had to aesthetic polish that Gnome has had. And, in my experience, KDE has been a lot more unstable in the 3.x series. But now KDE looks slick, feels well put-together, and more stable. It looks like they did a very good job on the art team with complementing the great job the coders have done.

@Raymond K: Good info. I knew about the optimizations to OpenOffice.org, but I forgot them when I did the review. My hope is that Sun can open up the process and “truly open source” OO.o by allowing people to roll in changes easier. If they don’t, I think most Linux distros are just going to end up using Open Suse’s version and de facto opening it up for them. On your other points on why it’s better than Mandriva – thanks for the info. Although I’m not installing any distros at this time, I think it will be helpful knowledge for others wondering which one to use.

@krejzihors: Thank you very much! Your comment makes me really happy – I try, as much as possible, to separate emotions from evaluation of engineering.

@Gigi: Excellent! Come back and let us know how it went!

By: Gigi

Gigi — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:08:04 +0000

I have had a Suse11 DVD lying around idle for around 20days now.

Your review has prompted me to try it out

By: krejzihors

krejzihors — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:53:17 +0000

That was a very nice and inforamtive review. A rare thing these days.